Trick

Ever wondered if you can combine miles between two accounts in the same program? As in, you have some American Airlines miles and your wife does too, and you want to pool them together to redeem on one award ticket?

The answer is technically yes, but most of the time* there are transfer fees above one cent per mile, and often transaction fees on top of that, that make this a bad idea. The fees depend on how many miles you transfer. The more you transfer, the lower the per mile cost, but transfers are always a bad deal.

*I said most of the time because JetBlue does allow you to pool points, as well as some foreign airline loyalty programs whose miles you can earn directly through American credit cards, like British Airways Avios, Hawaiian Airlines, and Asiana Airlines.

But transferrable points are a totally different story. The big four transferrable points programs allow you to transfer points between accounts, albeit each has different stipulations and restrictions. Today I’m going to review what those stipulations and restrictions are for the following types of points:

  • American Express Membership Rewards
  • Citi ThankYou Points
  • Starwood Preferred Guest Starpoints
  • Chase Ultimate Rewards

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ThankYou Points have (had?) some of the most lenient policies for transferring points between accounts. You don’t have to be married nor even living together. But as a backlash from what I can only assume was people selling large amounts of points, Citi has recently tightened their rules. Now you’re only allowed to transfer 100,000 ThankYou Points per year between two people’s ThankYou accounts, which is probably a big blow to families trying to book group trips together or share points amongst one another.

But 100,000 ThankYou Points is something. The other stipulation is that the ThankYou Points expire 90 days after the transfer, so only do it when you’re ready to redeem.

Transfers are instantaneous and free.

Starpoints (SPG)

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You can transfer your SPG Starpoints to another person’s SPG account as long as you and that person have the same household address on both of your accounts. You don’t need to be married, just living together at the least.

You also must make transfers in 1,000 point increments. This could result in some orphaned Starpoints if the award you’re redeeming miles for isn’t a round number.

Transfer between accounts normally take three to five days and are free.

Ultimate Rewards

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Transfers between two people’s Ultimate Rewards accounts are allowed as long both people live at the same household or are married. There isn’t anything in their terms that requires you to have accounts actually registered to the same address– like SPG– but if they find out that you don’t live in the same place or are married, they could shut down your account and you would loose all your points. You can also only choose one person in your household to share points with.

Policy for transferring Ultimate Rewards earned by the Ink Plus (business) card is a little different. You can transfer those Ultimate Rewards to another owner of the company that doesn’t necessarily have to be a member of your household.

Transfers are instantaneous and free.

Membership Rewards

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Out of all the big transferrable points, Membership Rewards have the strictest policy for transfers between two members accounts– you generally can’t do it. However, there is a simple workaround to this rule. You just have to add the person you would like to pool Membership Rewards with as an authorized user to your American Express card.

But watch out for two big caveats to that workaround:

  1. Being an authorized user on someone’s credit card account will count towards the number of cards you’ve opened in the eyes of Chase, so if the person you want to add is keeping an eye on their 5/24 count, you probably don’t want to do this.
  2. It costs $175 to add authorized users to American Express Platinum cards. Boo. Although they do get to enjoy lounge access and other travel benefits of the card if added, so it could be worth it in that sense.

Transfers are instantaneous and free.

Bottom Line

Transferring points amongst accounts can be advantageous for many reasons. Maybe you need just a few thousand more miles to top off an account for a specific award, or maybe you want to be able to book multiple awards on one ticket for your family that plans on traveling together. Or maybe you have a Chase Freedom Unlimited card but no other Chase cards, and your domestic partner has a Sapphire Reserve, so you want to transfer those Ultimate Rewards to their account to take advantage of airline transfer partners rather than just redeem for cash back.

  • You can transfer 100,000 ThankYou Points between any two ThankYou accounts per year
  • You can transfer SPG Points in 1,000 point increments between accounts who have had the same address on file for 30 days
  • You can transfer Ultimate Rewards between the accounts of spouses, household members, or (in the case of the Ink Plus) another business owner
  • You can transfer Membership Rewards to another persons’ account as long as they are designated as an authorized user
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The Chase Sapphire Reserve comes with 100,000 bonus Ultimate Rewards after spending $4,000 in the first three months that you can transfer to United miles, Singapore miles, Southwest points, British Airways miles, or use for 1.5 cents each toward any flight, hotel, or car rentals.

Plus the card offers $300 in credits toward any travel purchase each calendar year, which is $600 in your first 12 months of cardmembership, $100 toward Global Entry, and worldwide lounge access. Basically it's the best credit card ever, even with a $450 annual fee.

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My friends and I have saved hundreds of dollars with the trick to avoid paying the $75-per-ticket fee for booking United awards within 21 days of departure.

The basic idea is that you book the trip you want online except with fake dates that are more than 21 days from now. After ticketing the award, you immediately call United and ask to change your award for free since you booked within 24 hours. You change dates to the real flights you want, which are within 21 days of departure. The agent forgets to manually add a $75 fee, saving you big cash!

My latest experience with the trick happened this weekend. My friend has been visiting Europe for several weeks. He arrived on a one way ticket without much of a plan. He is finally ready to go home this week from Madrid, and he wants to use United miles.

He found a fantastic one stop itinerary from Madrid to Los Angeles for 30,000 United miles and $52 in taxes, a really great deal since cash tickets were over $800 one way. However, if he just booked it without any tricks, he’d also have to pay a $75 fee.

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He was all ears when I told him that he could save the $75 with 10 extra minutes of work, and he followed my instructions perfectly.

First he booked himself a ticket from Madrid to Los Angeles for September 1, which is more than 21 days from now.

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That allowed him to book the award for just 30,000 miles and $52 with no fee. He had to spend five minutes finding this dummy booking with Saver availability, but I told him that he should really find the same routing and carriers, so that his dummy award and real award would have identical taxes.

If he had chosen a dummy award flying different airlines with different connections, his taxes would be different and that could cause the agent to pay closer attention to the change on the phone, which might make her to remember to charge you $75.Screen Shot 2016-08-06 at 8.29.14 PM Immediately after booking, he called United at 800-UNITED-1 and said, “Hi, I just booked an award a few minutes ago and want to change the date of travel.” He fed the agent his confirmation number and the date, cabin, and flight number of the award he really wants to fly this week.

She found the space and made the change during a five minute call. She informed him that since taxes were the same, and he can make free changes within 24 hours of booking, she could make the change instantly without needing his credit card details again.

As soon as he hung up and refreshed his United account, his new itinerary showed up under his original confirmation number.

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He’s going home this week and not paying United’s $75 penalty for his spontaneity.

Bottom Line

The trick to save $75 per ticket on United award bookings within 21 days of departure is alive and well. Read the full post on the trick here.

It remains to be seen how this trick will be affected by United’s upcoming award fee changes.

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The Chase Sapphire Reserve comes with 100,000 bonus Ultimate Rewards after spending $4,000 in the first three months that you can transfer to United miles, Singapore miles, Southwest points, British Airways miles, or use for 1.5 cents each toward any flight, hotel, or car rentals.

Plus the card offers $300 in credits toward any travel purchase each calendar year, which is $600 in your first 12 months of cardmembership, $100 toward Global Entry, and worldwide lounge access. Basically it's the best credit card ever, even with a $450 annual fee.

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This comprehensive spreadsheet details commonly used loyalty programs and their policies towards booking an award close to the travel date.

To see how much you might have to pay for booking a last minute award, look up the loyalty program whose miles you will use on the chart (which might not necessarily be the airline you fly). You are subject to that programs’ rules and/or fees.

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Below I expand a bit on a few of the loyalty programs’ policies that require further clarification.

American Airlines

The $75 close-in award booking fee applies when you book an award within 21 days of the travel date. This fee is waived for all elites.

United

The $75 close-in award booking fee applies when you book an award within 21 days of the travel date. Here’s a trick to avoid paying United’s close-in booking fee. I used it recently and it worked like a charm.

Fees for booking a last minute United award are waived for those with upper elite status (Premier Platinum, Premier 1K®, or United Global Services®) and also those that are United Club members. If you have a lower level elite status, the close-in booking fee will be less but not waived–read more details here.

Delta

Within 21 days of the departure date, Delta jacks up the price of their awards. So while there is no separately defined fee for booking close to the travel date, you will pay more miles.

That is not published online, nor are their award charts anymore, but you can see the pattern from a quick search on delta.com.

JetBlue

TrueBlue award prices are based on the cash price of the ticket, which naturally gets more expensive as you get closer to the travel date. So while there isn’t a separately defined “last minute award booking fee”, you will probably end up paying more since the award price will climb the closer in you get to your desired travel date.

Southwest

Rapid Reward prices are also based on the cash price of the ticket. Most Southwest flights have less Wanna Get Away fares left within one to three weeks of departure, and the other types of fares require more points per dollar. So again, you won’t pay a defined, separated last minute booking fee, but you’ll pay for it with more Rapid Rewards.

Virgin America

Elevate award prices are based on the cash price of the ticket when redeeming Elevate points on Virgin America flights, so you will run into the same issue of the award price going up as you get closer to the travel date. But when you redeem Elevate points on one of Virgin America’s partners, award prices are set and region-based, so you won’t have that issue– and there are no extra last minute award booking fees.

Korean Air

Here is a post that explains the booking process when you redeem Korean SKYPASS miles. It requires some extra steps that might be difficult to achieve if you’re trying to plan last second travel.

Bottom Line

Using miles from any of the three American legacy carriers to book an award within 21 days of departure is going to cost you. Avoid it by transferring points to a foreign program that doesn’t charge close-in booking fees– but remember that a few of them require award bookings to be at least a few days (and in Etihad’s case, up to 14 days!) in advance.

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The Chase Sapphire Reserve comes with 100,000 bonus Ultimate Rewards after spending $4,000 in the first three months that you can transfer to United miles, Singapore miles, Southwest points, British Airways miles, or use for 1.5 cents each toward any flight, hotel, or car rentals.

Plus the card offers $300 in credits toward any travel purchase each calendar year, which is $600 in your first 12 months of cardmembership, $100 toward Global Entry, and worldwide lounge access. Basically it's the best credit card ever, even with a $450 annual fee.

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I noticed something very interesting about the Etihad Guest award policies when redeeming on American Airlines flights that could be very helpful to all you parents out there trying to navigate international award travel with babies.

Now, I’m not claiming to be an expert on infant lap travel. But I have gathered that there are generally three ways in which airlines charge for international infant lap awards:

  1. A flat fee (can be in cash or miles) defined by the cabin you are traveling in
  2. 10% of the mileage price + applicable taxes & fees
  3. 10% of the revenue price of the ticket + applicable taxes & fees

Across the board in these scenarios, an infant is defined as a child under two years old. The prices listed above are not for reserving the baby’s own seat, but for the cost of having the baby sit in your lap. They also do not apply to domestic travel, most airlines let children under two travel within the United States for free or a small extra flat fee.

The majority of airlines unfortunately use system #3 for ticketing infants on international travel, which can cost parents an arm and a leg– especially if they are traveling in a premium cabin. American Airlines, United, and Delta all charge 10% of the revenue price of the ticket + taxes/fees.

But when redeeming Etihad Guest miles on American Airlines flights for a lap infant award ticket, you are only charged 10% of the mileage price + taxes/fees.

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The Deal

As you might already know since it’s something I recommend pretty often, you can still redeem Etihad miles at pre-American Airlines devaluation rates. This means that, aside from the mileage price tags I tout constantly as some of the lowest, you can also book lap infant award tickets for just 10% of the mileage price of the adult’s award + taxes & fees.

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This not expected or ordinary just because the two airlines are partners. British Airways for example, another American Airlines partner, never charged the same number of miles for American Airlines flights as American Airlines did, nor did it have discounts for American Airlines off peak awards. As a general rule: different miles, different rules, different chart. But for whatever reason, Etihad decided to copy American’s chart when using Etihad miles to redeem American flights, and they are still sticking to it– at least for the time being.

But, What About Alaska?

Etihad was actually not the only frequent flyer program to copy American Airlines award prices and stick to them even after American Airlines devalued their award chart. There was one other program that did the same– Alaska Airlines’ Mileage Plan.

That made me wonder if you could also book an infant lap award on American Airlines flights with Alaska Miles for only 10% of the adult mileage price + taxes & fees, like Etihad and pre-devaluation American Airlines policy.

The best answer to that I can find is from this snippet of information on alaskair.com:
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So, it looks like if the award originates internationally and flies into the United States, you only have to pay a $17 fee. Great news. But if the award originates in the United States and flies to somewhere international, then you would be subject to that nasty 10% of the revenue price of the ticket cost, which can really get you if traveling in a premium cabin.

Booking the Infant Lap Award

Here is a full post on using Etihad miles to book American Airlines flights in case you’ve never done it before.

If the Etihad agent has a hard time figuring out the infant lap ticketing, The Points Guys says to advise them to look for T, U, and Z class for economy, Business and First Class award availability respectively.

Example

The award below, flying economy on American Airlines between New York and Rio de Janeiro, costs 57,500 American Airlines miles and $5.60 in taxes.

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To bring your under two year old child along in your lap, it would cost roughly $600 (10% of the cash ticket, which is $6,004):Screen Shot 2016-07-12 at 8.06.30 PM If you used Etihad miles to book it, it would cost you 50,000 Etihad Guest miles and roughly the same amount of taxes (because the flight is during what Etihad defines as Off Peak season between North and South America region 2, March 1-May 31 and August 16-November 30)

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If you booked this award with Etihad miles, then you could bring along your child that is under two years old to sit on your lap for only 5,000 additional Etihad miles and $5.60. That’s a steal.

Not Necessary for Domestic Awards

I said it above but just to clarify 100%, American carriers do not charge (or charge very little) for bringing along a child under two years to sit in your lap on domestic flights. I recommend reading each airline’s policy about it (some will let you travel with a lap infant free of charge to a few other places nearby right outside US borders)–just google [airline] + traveling with lap infant.

How to Get Etihad Miles

One of the fastest and easiest ways to get Etihad Guest miles is by transferring Citi ThankYou Points (they transfer at a rate of 1:1).

The Citi Prestige® Card comes with 40,000 bonus ThankYou Points after $4,000 in purchases are made within the first 3 months the account is open.

My review of the Citi Prestige Card explains its many components like $250 in airfare or airline fee credits per calendar year, access to the American Airlines Admirals Clubs and Priority Pass lounges, 3x points per dollar on air travel and hotels, and a $450 annual fee.

You can also transfer SPG points and Membership Rewards to Etihad Guest at 1:1. Below are some cards that earn them:

Bottom Line

If you are planning international premium cabin award travel with a baby under the age of two, then you should probably consider booking American Airlines award space with Etihad Guest miles. They only charge 10% of the mileage price + applicable taxes & fees while many airlines’ frequent flyer programs charge 10% of the cost of the cash ticket.

Like I said, I’m not an expert in infant lap travel, but I imagine it’s an issue many of you readers deal with. If anyone has valuable insight, please share your experiences in the comments.

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The Chase Sapphire Reserve comes with 100,000 bonus Ultimate Rewards after spending $4,000 in the first three months that you can transfer to United miles, Singapore miles, Southwest points, British Airways miles, or use for 1.5 cents each toward any flight, hotel, or car rentals.

Plus the card offers $300 in credits toward any travel purchase each calendar year, which is $600 in your first 12 months of cardmembership, $100 toward Global Entry, and worldwide lounge access. Basically it's the best credit card ever, even with a $450 annual fee.

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Through tomorrow (May 26, 2015), British Airways is offering a 40% bonus on the purchase of Avios. The biggest bonus ever offered on the purchase of Avios was 50% in February 2015, so this is a big bonus.

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The maximum Avios you can purchase in a year is normally 35,000, but is being raised to 100,000 during this promotion. With a 40% bonus, that means you can add 140,000 Avios to your account. Americans are being offered those Avios for 1.98 cents each, but with one simple trick, you can drop the price to 1.44 cents per Avios!

The Trick

If you set your British Airways account address to a country that uses the euro, say France, you will be sold Avios in euros instead of dollars. The euro price for buying Avios is way cheaper!

The cost to purchase 140,000 Avios for people with an American address is $2,775 or 1.98 cents per Avios. The cost to purchase 140,000 Avios for people with a euro-area address is $2,016 (1,800 euros) or 1.44 cents each. You save more than 25% just for changing your address.

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To change your address, click “Manage my account under Executive Club on any page.
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Click “Update my personal information” on the left side of the screen.

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Hit Continue about three times. The first time I tried to make the change, I stopped a screen short. You’ll know if you have succeeded because when you go back to the Purchase Miles screen, you will be offered the Avios in euros.

If you buy fewer Avios, the price is a bit higher. For instance, buying 14,000 (10k + 4k bonus) Avios results in a price of 1.60 cents per Avios.

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If you purchase in euros, make sure you use a card that charges no foreign transaction fees like the Citi Prestige® Card. You should also probably pay with a MasterCard instead of a Visa (again like the Citi Prestige.)

Does Putting Your Account in France Mess Up Points Transfers?

After setting my account to France, I initiated a 1,000 Ultimate Rewards transfer to my British Airways account that was already stored on chase.com. The transfer went through instantly as usual, so changing your address doesn’t appear to mess this up.Screen Shot 2015-02-24 at 12.46.45 PMScreen Shot 2015-02-24 at 12.46.53 PM

Eventually you can change your Avios account address back to your home address, but British Airways makes you wait six months between address changes. However I have had my address in France for over a year now, and I seem to be offered better deals for mileage sales and Cash & Avios awards, so I see no reason to change my address back to the United States.

Is This a Good Deal?

The best uses of Avios are short, direct, economy flights on partners without fuel surcharges.

At 1.44 cents per Avios, domestic (including Hawaii) one way awards that cost XXX Avios plus $5.60 in taxes one way would cost:

Those are pretty good deals. I’ve seen cheaper with cash on every route, and I’ve also seen a lot more expensive.

The bottom line with all miles sales is that they are a good deal if you have an immediate, high value use for the miles, and a poor deal otherwise.

Bottom Line

You have until tomorrow (May 26) to get a big bonus on purchasing Avios. Ignore the 1.98 cent price for Americans. Anyone with a euro-zone address on file with British Airways and a no-foreign-transaction-fee credit card can get the Avios for 1.44 cents each. The sales are consummated by points.com, so there is no bonus for an airline or travel purchase on your credit card.

The best deals with Avios are short, direct, economy flights on routes/airlines without fuel surcharges. That includes all domestic flights and all these flights.

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Editorial Disclaimer: The editorial content is not provided or commissioned by the credit card issuers. Opinions expressed here are author’s alone, not those of the credit card issuers, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by the credit card issuers.

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The Chase Sapphire Reserve comes with 100,000 bonus Ultimate Rewards after spending $4,000 in the first three months that you can transfer to United miles, Singapore miles, Southwest points, British Airways miles, or use for 1.5 cents each toward any flight, hotel, or car rentals.

Plus the card offers $300 in credits toward any travel purchase each calendar year, which is $600 in your first 12 months of cardmembership, $100 toward Global Entry, and worldwide lounge access. Basically it's the best credit card ever, even with a $450 annual fee.

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Update: I used this trick successfully. Here was my experience.

As I led a session at the Chicago Seminars this weekend on “Special Awards,” someone chimed in with an intriguing tip:

There is a simple method to avoid the $75 “close in ticketing fee” on United awards that is triggered when you try to book a ticket within 21 days of departure.

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I tested out the proposed method yesterday, and I have some input on how it works. (The trick does work!)

  • How can you save $75 per ticket on your next last minute United award?
  • What number do you need to call?

Facts

  • “Booking a MileagePlus award ticket through any channel, less than 21 days before departure” incurs a fee of $75 per ticket. This fee is reduced or waived depending on your status.
  • You can make free changes or cancellations of your United award within 24 hours of ticketing by phone or online. This is designed as a safety valve if you make a mistake in the initial ticketing, but you can use the free changes and cancellations however you’d like.

The Proposed Trick

If you want to book a United award within 21 days of departure, book the same flight for 1+ months in the future, then immediately call in to change it to within 21 days of departure. No close in ticketing fee will be charged.

My Test

I tested out the trick with a simple one way award from Kona to Honolulu on Hawaiian Airlines. The award normally costs 6,000 United miles + $5.60. Note that there is nothing special that made me choose this award except that it is the cheapest award on the United chart. If this test succeeds, all other awards should be the same.

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Within 21 days of departure, this award costs 6,000 United miles + $80.60 because of the $75 close in ticketing fee.

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I decided to book the ticket for March 31, 2015 for 6,000 miles + $5.60 and to try to change in to October 31, 2014 without paying the close in ticketing fee. I booked March 31 online in just a few seconds.

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Then I called the number for United web support. They can make award changes, I rarely have to wait on hold, and the Houston-based agents are good. In this case, too good.

I told the agent I wanted to change an award and gave her the confirmation number. I gave her the flight information for the October 31 flight, and she quickly made the change. She told me that since I was changing to a flight within 21 days of departure, there would be a $75 close in ticketing fee! Failure!

I thanked her and told her I would prefer to just keep my original itinerary before disconnecting.

From my knowledge of changing United awards, I suspected that agents have to remember to collect this fee on changes. I suspected calling a less competent agent might get me around the fee.

I called United back at its general 800-UNITED-1 number. I asked the next agent to change me to the same October 31 flight.

First she said that there was no award space even though there is award space on over a dozen Kona-to-Honolulu flights on October 31. This was a great sign; she seemed incompetent! I asked her to look again since I could see the space online.

Eventually she found the space and made the change. She noted that I had booked my award within the last 24 hours, so changes were free. She never mentioned any additional $75 charge. Success!

Inside my United account, my ticket had been updated to the October 31 flight.

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United agents won’t charge you an additional fee without getting your credit card info again or at least confirming which stored credit card you want to charge, but just to double check that no $75 charge had been snuck onto my credit card, I signed into my credit card account.

A pending charge for $5.60 in taxes on the award was present, but no $75 charge was present.

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Aftermath

I went into my online account and cancelled the award altogether to get my 6,000 United miles and $5.60 back. The $5.60 will post back to my credit card within a week or two. The miles re-posted to my account instantly.

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The trick to avoiding the $75 close in ticketing fee on United awards–booking farther out and changing it close in within 24 hours of booking–works. I wish I had gotten the name of the person who gave everyone the tip.

The trick works because phone agents have to remember to charge you the $75 close in ticketing fee, and only well trained agents will remember to do that. If your agent remembers, thank her for her time, and tell her you have decided not to make the change. I think very few agents at the 800-UNITED-1 number will remember to charge you the $75.

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The Chase Sapphire Reserve comes with 100,000 bonus Ultimate Rewards after spending $4,000 in the first three months that you can transfer to United miles, Singapore miles, Southwest points, British Airways miles, or use for 1.5 cents each toward any flight, hotel, or car rentals.

Plus the card offers $300 in credits toward any travel purchase each calendar year, which is $600 in your first 12 months of cardmembership, $100 toward Global Entry, and worldwide lounge access. Basically it's the best credit card ever, even with a $450 annual fee.

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You can only get the bonus on American Express credit and charge cards once per lifetime. If you haven’t kept detailed records of all your past American Express cards, how do you know whether you’ve gotten a card before, meaning you can NOT get its bonus now, or whether you haven’t had it before, meaning you CAN get the bonus?

This question has come from several readers recently since the SPG personal and business cards have their highest ever bonuses of 35,000 Starpoints.

Request a List from AMEX Chat

To get a list of previous American Express cards, sign into your American Express account and click Help.

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This seems to involve some skill beyond copying and pasting on her part as she missed one of my cards, but when I pointed it out, she found it.

Hat Tip Renes Points

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Plus the card offers $300 in credits toward any travel purchase each calendar year, which is $600 in your first 12 months of cardmembership, $100 toward Global Entry, and worldwide lounge access. Basically it's the best credit card ever, even with a $450 annual fee.

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Award space is wide open in Turkish Airlines Business Class between the United States and Europe for four people per flight over the heart of the Summer.

This is amazing news because normally award space over the summer is the toughest to find, finding four seats on the same flight in Business Class is almost unheard of, Turkish flies to more countries than any other airline, and you can book the space for as cheap as 40,000 miles one way with no fuel surcharges.

Turkish Routes

These are Turkish’s routes to the United States.

Screen Shot 2016-01-19 at 8.33.44 PMFrom Istanbul, there are great connections within Europe, to Africa, to the Middle East, and to the Indian Subcontinent.

Award Space

Unfortunately, United made united.com worse, so I can’t isolate the direct award space.

All these calendars show award space for four people. Green and blue days have four Business Class seats, not necessarily on the direct Turkish flight (but probably.)

Boston to Istanbul

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Check the route that most interests you for award space. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

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Here is the “catch.” Turkish’s Business Class is 2-3-2 across each row. That’s a terrible configuration. You could get a middle seat in Business Class (although you almost certainly won’t if you select a seat soon after booking.) Seat Guru describes the seats as having 177 degrees of recline, which is basically flat.

Here is a recent video of Turkish Business Class.

Other than the seats, Turkish Business Class looks top notch, including having an onboard chef.

Searching, Connections, Booking

Search Turkish award space on united.com. Any Turkish award space you find there, you can book with any Star Alliance miles.

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If you don’t live in a city served by Turkish, that’s no problem. You can hook up any United Saver award space in economy or first class to get to a Turkish gateway for no extra miles. If you want to connect to somewhere else in Europe or to Africa or Asia, you can definitely do that too, though other continents will cost extra miles.

Book online on the website of the airline whose miles you want to use, or if that’s not possible, by calling the airline whose miles you want to use. I’d recommend booking with:

Bottom Line

No excuses for not taking your whole family to Europe this summer in Turkish Business Class.

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British Airways is happy to handle a number of transactions in dollars, pounds, or euros. Each transaction has a fixed price in each currency instead of a dynamic one that changes with exchange rates, so at the moment transactions in euros are way cheaper than transactions in dollars and pounds.

What currency you’re charged depends on what country you list as your residence, so I explained yesterday how to set your address to France to save about 25% on buying Avios.

The Free-quent Flyer (remember he did an awesome Manufactured Spending extra for my e-book) asked whether changing your address results in cheaper Cash & Avios awards on Twitter.

On almost all Avios awards you are given six payment choices that range from all of the Avios you are supposed to pay for the award down to about a third of the Avios. When you use fewer Avios, you have to pay more cash. Here is an example of the six price options for a one way award from New York to Berlin on airberlin:

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Free-quent Flyer was asking if the cash component was lower in euros than in dollars. I told him that it definitely was, but I didn’t have data.

He answered his own question, saying he would have saved $100 on a previous Cash & Avios award he booked if his account had been in euros instead of dollars.

So there is no reason not to put your British Airways account in euros right now; you’ll be able to buy miles cheaper and be given cheaper Cash & Avios options with no negative changes associated with switching. Here’s how to switch.

How cheap are the Cash & Avios options once you put your account in euros? Commenter Charles points us to a German-language post on the subject. It is a very good post, and Google Translate in Google Chrome translated it perfectly except for the charts, but you can pretty easily figure out that this chart is showing the price of “buying” Avios during a Cash & Avios award booking. It shows all nine Avios price bands (eg 4,500 Avios is band 1 and 12,500 Avios is band 4) and all six options for Cash & Avios awards at each price band.

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From http://meilenoptimieren.com/executive-club-tutorial-praemienflug-buchen-avios-and-money/

Note that the prices are in euro cents. Right now 0.82 euros = $0.89.

Do check out the whole German post; it is really good. And do set the address on your British Airways account to somewhere in the euro-area. This trick will help you use Avios much more efficiently. I love Avios for short, direct, economy flights. Read more about Avios and the best Avios uses here.

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Plus the card offers $300 in credits toward any travel purchase each calendar year, which is $600 in your first 12 months of cardmembership, $100 toward Global Entry, and worldwide lounge access. Basically it's the best credit card ever, even with a $450 annual fee.

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Update 2/12/16: United brought back the nonstop calendar. The single column for Saver and Standard economy space remains.

I covered two months ago why the new united.com stinks for award searching. My biggest complaint is that even if you specify a “nonstop only” search, the search calendar does not show you nonstop only results.

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I used to be able to see space on a route for two months at a time on united.com, now I can see it one day a time. As a professional award booker, anything that makes searching slower is something I don’t like.

Luckily there is a way to get the old united.com and its better search results to load.

  1. Open up Private or Incognito Browsing
  2. Type ual.com into the URL box.

Here’s how to open Private or Incognito Browsing on Firefox, Chrome, and Safari.

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Then go to ual.com, and you’ll get the uglier but better old united.com.

 

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Plus the card offers $300 in credits toward any travel purchase each calendar year, which is $600 in your first 12 months of cardmembership, $100 toward Global Entry, and worldwide lounge access. Basically it's the best credit card ever, even with a $450 annual fee.

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Emirates offers First and Business Class passengers free chauffeur service to and from the airport. I took advantage with rides to Auckland’s airport and from Sydney’s airport in 2013.

Starting in January 2015, Emirates restricted chauffeur service to First and Business Class passengers whose tickets were issued by Emirates or Qantas.

The best way for travel hackers to book Emirates First and Business Class ticket is with Alaska Airlines miles, meaning Alaska issues the ticket. That means, by the rules, no chauffeur service. But One Mile at a Time reports a trick to get free chauffeur service in Dubai that works sometimes:

Upon landing in Dubai, follow signs for Emirates Chauffeur Drive Services and request a chauffeur there at the airport. Commenters reported some successes and some failures.

I decided to try it out when I landed in Dubai yesterday, having flown Emirates First Class from Zurich (trip report to follow.) After clearing customs, you see huge signs that point you to the right for a chauffeur or to the left to exit. I headed right and to the First Class desk inside the chauffeur area. I presented my ticket with a smile and said I’d like a ride to my hotel.

A minute later she was handing me a slip to hand to the driver for my free ride. Success!

It did seem to take her an extra thirty seconds to print my ticket because someone else showed up next to me after me and had his slip printed before mine. I speculate that maybe she had to override something on the computer on my behalf.

This trick will not work 100% of the time, and maybe Emirates will shut it down completely, but for now, there is a chance to get a free ride from the Dubai airport on an Alaska award ticket. I don’t know of a similar way to get a ride to the Dubai airport, nor do I know of a way to get rides to/from any other airport on an Alaska award ticket.

If you try this out, make sure you have a backup transportation plan. Share your results in the comments.

 

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I just flew an award that saw me fly four flights in four days between four countries. The award cost 15,000 United miles + $73.

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  • How much can you really do in 23 hours in a city?
  • How much time is eaten up traveling?
  • What are the costs of getting to and from the airport?
  • What happens with your bags?

United has a bit of a loophole that you can fly four segments within Europe for 15,000 miles if you are never on the ground for more than 23:59 between flights. In April, I booked myself this four-segment routing from Bucharest to Zurich, and I flew it this week.

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While I normally like to travel slowly–I had just spent three weeks in Bucharest and four in Belgrade–I also like to mix in this rapid travel from time to time. My theory is that I can do 1-3 awesome things in each place and gauge quickly and cheaply whether I’d like to come back for a longer future trip (Dubrovnik) or whether I’ve seen enough (Brussels.)

How Much Can You Really Do In 23 Hours?

Athens in 22:10

I had 22 hours in Athens. I arrived to my hostel just before 11 PM and went to the rooftop bar for a drink. The rooftop had an amazing view of the lit Acropolis, and I enjoyed meeting a few other solo travelers. The bartender sent me off in the direction of nightlife, but I got lost, and just enjoyed wandering around a bit. I got a good feeling for the atmosphere of Athens on a summer evening.

In the morning I set off on a 2.5 hour “free” (plus gratuity) walking tour of the variety that is now in pretty much every European city. It was an interesting overview of the historical sites, though we didn’t enter any. When the tour ended, I finally went into some sites: the Temple of Olympian Zeus, the Acropolis Museum, the Acropolis (Parthenon), and the Ancient Agora.

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Then I had some awesome Indian takeaway for a very late lunch and headed to the airport.

I think Athens is a great place for a 23 hour layover. You can easily see many of the main historical sites, have some Greek food, and drink a little ouzo.

Dubrovnik in 20:05

I had 20 hours in Dubrovnik. I got to my hostel around 10 PM and headed into the Old Town, which is one of the most beautiful places on Earth for a stroll. Two years ago I had cliff jumped at sunset, so I wanted to cliff jump at sunrise. I went to the bar–I think it is just called Cold Drinks–that you have to pass through to get to the cliff jumping rocks. They said their gate wouldn’t open until 8 AM, so my sunrise cliff jump plans were shelved. I headed to bed and set my alarm for 10 AM.

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I jumped for three hours the next day, making friends with the other travelers and locals who were cycling through to test their nerve on the 6 to 14 meter cliffs.

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At around 1 PM, I went for lunch and then took a bus back to the airport.

Dubrovnik is perfect for me for a 23 hour layover. For others, it might not be as good of a fit, but you’ll definitely have enough time to wander the Old Town, walk its walls, take a Game of Thrones tour, have a night out, and maybe even cliff jump.

Zagreb in 19:05

I had 19 hours in Zagreb. I got to the hostel and showered for a Friday night out, which was my top priority. I met up with MileValue reader Max, and we spent the evening drinking pivo in front of a bar packed with locals overflowing onto the street in front.

It was a late night, and in the morning I headed straight back to the airport.

Zagreb is not really the best place for a 23 hour layover because there isn’t that one big thing you can check off in under a day like you could in, say, Paris or Amsterdam or Athens. But I enjoyed myself.

Travel Time and Cost

Including my Uber to the Bucharest airport, my flight to Athens, and the metro to my hostel in Athens, I was traveling for 4:50 on the first day. I paid $11 for the Uber and $16 for the roundtrip metro in Athens.

Including the metro to the airport, the flight to Dubrovnik, and a taxi to my hostel, I spent 4:15 minutes traveling the second day. I split a way-overpriced taxi to Dubrovnik–my share was $19–instead of using the $5 bus because it wasn’t leaving for another 40 minutes. I took the $5 bus back.

Including the bus to the airport, the flight to Zagreb, the bus to the city, and a 2 km walk to my hostel, I traveled 4:40 the third day. The bus in Zagreb is $4 each way.

Including the walk, bus to the airport, flight to Zurich, and train to my host’s house, I spent 4:15 traveling on the fourth day. The train was $7.

My travel time averaged about four and a half hours per day. My total airport transportation costs were $66 plus the $73 in taxes on my award.

What Happens with Your Bags?

I am traveling with one checked bag because I am carrying my tennis rackets around the world. I didn’t want to have to collect it and re-check it in every city because that would eat into my time. Luckily I didn’t have to.

At the Bucharest airport, I pro-actively asked the agent: “Can you check this bag all the way to Zurich?” She asked if I was sure I wanted it to go all the way there instead of getting it in Athens. I confirmed that I didn’t want to see the bag again until the end of the four flights, and I had packed in such a way that I didn’t need anything in the checked bag for the next few days.

She printed a baggage sticker with all four flights and affixed it to my bag.

She could only check me in for my first two segments (the ones within 24 hours), so I had to check in again in Dubrovnik to get boarding passes 3 and 4.

When I checked in in Dubrovnik, the agent asked where my checked bag was. I said that I hadn’t seen it since Bucharest and didn’t expect to see it until Zurich. She said it was not on the plane or in the system. She suggested I go to Lost Baggage. I said that I would deal with it in Zurich, since I didn’t consider it lost unless /until it failed to show up at the end of the trip.

In Zurich, the bag failed to show up, as I was anticipating based on my conversation in Dubrovnik. I went to the Swissport lost baggage center and filed a claim. They gave me a receipt for my claim, some forms to fill out if the bag were still lost in three days, and a free amenity kit.

A few hours later, I got a call that the bag was found, and it was delivered to me.

I recommend traveling without a checked bag on these itineraries. If you must have one, you can check it to the end or collect it at each stop. If you check it to the end, they may lose it, but you’ll probably get it eventually.

Bottom Line

I wouldn’t want to fly every day, but it’s fun for a few days. If you are planning a two week trip the Europe, why not spend five days in each of two cities and break that up with one of these four-segment awards? They are cheap, fun, and you can accomplish a lot in 23 hours minus travel time.

 

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United is putting a 787-9 Dreamliner on its all of its routes to Australia by March 26, 2016. United currently flies the 787-9 on its Los Angeles to Melbourne route and 777s on its San Francisco and Los Angeles to Sydney routes.

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There is great economy award space on the Sydney routes after the operating aircraft switches to a Dreamliner, but very little Business Class space. There is, however, a trick to increase your chances of getting Business Class award space on the Dreamliner to Australia.

United 787-9 Dreamliner

The United 787-9 Dreamliner has 48 beds in Business class in a 2-2-2 configuration. In 2-2-2 configurations, I always choose a middle seat, since both have direct aisle access. If you choose a seat on either side of the plane, you’ll either need to climb over your seatmate or be climbed over during the flight.

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Each seat converts to a fully flat bed with 6’6″ of sleeping space.

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New Routes

Los Angeles to Sydney switches to a Dreamliner on March 26, 2016.

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San Francisco to Sydney switches to a Dreamliner on March 25, 2016.

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Both flights are 15 hour redeyes. Both returns are 14 hour redeyes that take off around midday.

Award Space Picture

Los Angeles to Sydney

Award space is fantastic in economy, and five days in the Spring (their Winter) have Business Class award space.

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Sydney to Los Angeles

Award space is fantastic in economy and three days have Business Class award space.

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San Francisco to Sydney

Economy award space is slightly worse, and there is no Business Class award space.

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Sydney to San Francisco

Just like the San Fran to Sydney flight, very good economy award space, no Business Class space.

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Four People

All the above calendars were for one person. The award space hardly changes if you change the search to four people.

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How to Fly Business Class on the Dreamliner

So little Saver award space is released on the Dreamliner in Business Class that if you really want to fly it, I’d recommend using United Plan B.

The basics of Plan B are that:

  1. You book United-operated flights with United miles. In this case, you can book from your home airport to Australia in economy for 40,000 United miles one way or 80,000 United miles roundtrip. I repeat: Plan B only works when redeeming United miles for United-operated flights.
  2. You call United and ask to be waitlisted for a higher cabin on the flights you booked.
  3. The agent takes extra miles from your account as if you were confirmed in the higher cabin. In this case, that would be an extra 30,000 miles each way, since United Business Class to Australia is 70,000 miles.
  4. You are given top priority on the waitlist as if you were displaced Business Class passenger. That means you have higher priority than attempted upgraders.
  5. Since United rarely (ever?) sells all 48 beds on its Dreamliner to Australia, and you are at the top of the upgrade list, you are very likely to fly Business Class.
  6. If you don’t fly Business Class, you are refunded the extra miles (30,000 each way in this case) that you paid at the time of being waitlisted.

This is an ideal route for a Plan B award because economy award space is so wide open, the Business Class product is good quality and fairly priced, and the Business Class cabin is so large that an upgrade seems very likely.

Here are the first hand experiences of other people who have booked Plan B awards.

How to Get United Miles

The United personal, business, and Club cards plus the Sapphire Preferred and Ink Plus all earn United miles.

Bottom Line

United is moving its newest plane the 787-9 Dreamliner to all of its Australia routes by the end of winter. Economy award space is fantastic for 4+ people, but Business Class space is rarely available for even a single person.

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Use United Plan B awards to turn an economy award magically into a flat bed.

 

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Until a few weeks ago, you could change the payment currency on Airbnb to the host’s currency. That saved you Airbnb’s ridiculous 3% currency conversion fee. As long as you paid with a no-foreign-transaction-fee credit card, you got the conversion done for a 0% fee.

Since I’ve spent most of the year in Airbnb properties, that saves me a lot of money.

Then Airbnb took that option away. It looked like a pure cash grab, and certainly the Airbnb Twitter team had no explanation for why the option to pay in the host’s currency was taken away.

Luckily there is still a way to avoid the 3% junk fee that Twitter user @SterlingTravelr nails.

At the bottom of the Airbnb home page, change the currency to the currency of the host before searching.

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I changed the currency to Brazilian Real and did a search in Brazil. Search results were in Real. When I selected a property and went to the payment screen, I saw a price of 150 Real.

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The fine print clearly says that I’ll actually pay dollars, but no exchange commission is listed. And 150 Real equals $43, what I’ll be charged, so no 3% commission is being charged either.

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By contrast, if I reset the currency on the home page to dollars, the property is going for $48. (The “Coupon,” the low prices, and the fact that $43 and $48 are more than 3% apart are because I have earned some referral credits. If you sign up for Airbnb through my referral link, you’ll get $25 off your first stay, and I’ll get $25 off my next stay. Feel free to leave your referral link in the comments.)
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Bottom Line

On the home page, set the currency to your host’s currency. You will still pay in your local currency but avoid the conversion fee.

It’s weird that Airbnb tried to make this cash grab while leaving a backdoor open. This could be shut at any time.

In the meantime, here are Three Ways to Save on Airbnb that are very unlikely to end. Here’s How Airbnb Works.

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United allows you to book trips to and from ZFV, Philadelphia’s 30th St. train station. Such fares include flights to or from Newark and trains from there to Philadelphia.

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Because in the short term an airline’s ticket prices have more to do with competition from other airlines than anything else, United often sells tickets to ZFV for cheaper than flights to Newark, even when the trip to ZFV is the same flights to Newark plus a train ride. This presents an intriguing hidden city ticketing option, doubly intriguing because you have to collect any checked bags in Newark.

Hidden city ticketing is the practice of booking a ticket with a connection and planning to fly only to the intermediate connection point. Hidden city ticketing can save you a lot of money when flights to your real destination are expensive, flights to your fake destination are cheaper, and you can book tickets to the fake destination with a connection at the real destination.

For example if you want to fly from Baltimore to Chicago and the fare is $200 one way, but you find Baltimore to Milwaukee with a connection in Chicago for $150 one way, you can buy Baltimore to Milwaukee and just leave the airport in Chicago $50 richer than you would have been if you had booked a ticket to Chicago.

Hidden city ticketing is not illegal, but airlines don’t like it. In the past, United sued a website that searched for hidden city tickets. (The case was thrown out on procedural grounds; I also think United would lose on the merits.) I’ll have more hidden city caveats as they apply to ZFV fares at the end of the post.

Cheap ZFV Fares

Philadelphia is an American Airlines/US Airways hub with a lot of direct flights on the airline. Most United itineraries to Philadelphia, by contrast, will have a layover at a United hub. People don’t like layovers, so United needs to price these connecting itineraries attractively to compete with American Airlines/US Airways direct flights.

Similarly, United has a fortress hub at Newark with direct flights from all over the country. If someone flies to Newark, they will want to fly United because of the much better schedule United has compared to other carriers at the airport. So United has some pricing power at the airport.

That’s why we often see that United charges more for a direct flight from somewhere to Newark than for that same flight plus a train ticket to Philadelphia.

Example: One Way from Las Vegas

This is a calendar of only United-marketed itineraries (I’ll explain how to get it below) from Las Vegas to Philadelphia’s train station in September. There are a lot of days including Fridays and Satrudays for $125.

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Here is a $125 itinerary on a Friday that includes a direct United flight from Las Vegas to Newark and then a train to Philadelphia.Screen Shot 2015-07-12 at 10.19.55 PM

Here is a calendar of flights from Las Vegas to Newark in September. The cheapest price is $167, and the cheapest Friday is $178.

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And the cheapest flights are with a connection, which means an extra 2.5 hours of travel to Newark. The United direct flights are pricing at $222–$97 more than the price from Las Vegas to Philadelphia that included the same flight.Screen Shot 2015-07-12 at 10.21.07 PM

Example: One Way from Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW)

This is a calendar of only United-marketed itineraries from DFW to Philadelphia’s train station in September. There are a lot of days including Fridays and Saturdays for $105.
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These $105 itineraries are a direct DFW to Newark flight plus a train ride.Screen Shot 2015-07-12 at 10.26.16 PM Now let’s search DFW to Newark on all airlines with no maximum number of layovers. The cheapest days are $147, and the cheapest Fridays are $158.

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The cheapest nonstops are $185, a full $80 more than the fare to Philadelphia.Screen Shot 2015-07-12 at 10.27.00 PM

How to Find These Fares

I started on the ITA Matrix. First I searched for United one way fares from different cities to ZFV. To make sure you only get United fares, include the advanced routing code UA+.

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If you want your results to only include United direct flights to Newark plus the train ride, you should instead use the advanced routing code UA UA.Screen Shot 2015-07-12 at 10.27.34 PM

You’ll get a calendar of results that include flights to Newark.

Now re-run the search and change the destination to Newark and remove the advanced routing codes. You’ll get a calendar of results from all airlines.

Compare the two calendars. If the United fares to Philadelphia are cheaper, you can book them on united.com or on whatever online travel agency you prefer.

Caveats & FAQ

A normal caveat with hidden city ticketing is that you cannot check a bag because it will fly to your final destination. With tickets to ZFV, though, you can check a bag. The bag will come out at baggage claim in Newark, and you are expected to pick it up there are carry it to the train. No one will (or can) force you to do that instead of just leaving.

Another normal caveat is that your plans could be ruined by inclement weather that causes a re-routing that eliminates the connection in your true destination. This is less of a worry with ZFV fares. To get to ZFV, you have to fly to Newark and take the train. If United tried to re-route me to Philadelphia’s airport via Chicago instead, I would insist on changing the itinerary back to plane to Newark plus train because ZFV and Philadelphia’s airport are in very different places.

You are violating United’s terms and conditions, and United could respond by not awarding miles for your trip or even canceling your MileagePlus account. I have never seen a single report of United doing this. Surely your odds of United noticing and punishing you increase if you book these tickets frequently.

What about skipping your train legs, what effect will that have on you and your ticket? There’s a 1,500+ post FlyerTalk thread on the subject, and this is the summary based on folks’ experience:

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Skipping ZFV-EWR/EWR-ZFV Segment

The scenarios below are categorized as low-risk, medium-risk, or high-risk.

  • Low-risk scenarios are unlikely to result in cancelled segments; the risks here include UA coming after you if you do it frequently, and the possibility of being routed directly to PHL in IRROPS.
  • Medium-risk scenarios are those where some people have reported cancelled segments, particularly if there is enough lag time between the Amtrak segment and one or more of the United segments for the systems to sync up; sometimes you can get an agent to reinstate canceled segments/trip for no charge but seating assignment and upgrades will probably be lost.
  • High-risk scenarios are those where some segments are almost certain to be cancelled.

Here are the scenarios:

  • Booking One Way or Round Trip: ZFV-EWR-XXX, boarding ZFV-EWR downline (e.g. at TRE or MET) – No risk (subject to obtaining your train ticket–see below)
  • Booking One Way: ZFV-EWR-XXX, Skipping ZFV-EWR only – Medium-risk
  • Booking One Way: XXX-EWR-ZFV, Skipping EWR-ZFV only – Low-risk
  • Booking Round Trip: ZFV-EWR-XXX, Skipping ZFV-EWR only – High-risk
  • Booking Round Trip: XXX-EWR-ZFV, Skipping ZFV-EWR only – Medium-risk
  • Booking Round Trip: ZFV-EWR-XXX, Skipping EWR-ZFV only – Low-risk
  • Booking Round Trip: XXX-EWR-ZFV, Skipping EWR-ZFV only – High-risk
  • Booking Round Trip: ZFV-EWR-XXX -OR- XXX-EWR-ZFV, Skipping ZFV-EWR and EWR-ZFV – High-risk

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So FlyerTalk is basically suggesting that you only skip the train if it is the very last segment on your ticket. The easiest way to do that is to book a one way TO Newark/Philadelphia.

There are reports of people booking ZFV to Newark to a destination, printing their real Amtrak ticket at a station, and then skipping the Amtrak segment and being allowed to fly out of Newark. But read the FlyerTalk thread in detail before trying that.

Bottom Line

If you want to fly to Newark, you can save serious money booking United fares to ZFV, a Philadelphia train station, and then skipping the train segment.

As with all hidden city ticketing, there is risk.

More hidden city ticketing articles, all of which are about award booking:

Hat Tip Dan’s Deals

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