Flying Blue Glitch: 12,500 Miles to Kauai

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Flying Blue is the loyalty program of Air France and a 1:1 transfer partner of Chase, American Express, Citi, and SPG. Flying Blue has a number of well-documented sweet spots including 15,000 miles one way to Hawaii from the United States mainland.

Speaking of transferring Citi points, I have to take down the Citi Prestige 50k offer in five days. Last time I had to take down a Citi 50k offer, the sign up bonus went to zero. Don’t miss out.

At the moment, however, you can book awards between the mainland and Kauai for 12,500 miles each way or 25,000 miles roundtrip. I assume this is a glitch caused by Flying Blue mis-classifying Kauai as being in the continental United States. LifeMiles used to have similar glitches putting Guam, Istanbul, and a few others in the continental United States.

It took LifeMiles months and months to correct those mistakes, so it might take Flying Blue a similar amount of time, or they might correct this mistake tomorrow. You should book as soon as you can if you want the discount.

The Mistake

Honolulu, Kona, and Maui still show the 15,000 miles price each way. That’s not bad, since Delta wants 22,500 Delta miles for the same flights, but it isn’t a mistake.

Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.14.02 PM Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.14.08 PM Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.14.41 PM Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.14.47 PM Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.15.25 PM Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.15.31 PM The mistake is that Kauai is only 12,500 miles one way.Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.15.58 PM Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.16.01 PM The 12,500 mile price comes up on the direct Delta flight between Los Angeles and Kauai. The award has only $5.60 in taxes each way.Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.16.16 PM

Unfortunately the mistake does not extend to First Class awards. In fact, Delta First Class (search Business Class on airfrance.us) prices at 31,250 miles each way…

Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.43.03 PM …while awards to the other islands are only 30,000 miles each way.Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.43.27 PM

The Award Space

For Flying Blue to have access to Delta award space at all, Delta needs to release Level 1 (Saver) award space to its members. This used to be laughably rare, especially to Hawaii, but Delta has quietly improved its award space, including to Hawaii.

For instance, here is economy award space from Atlanta to Kauai from August 1 to September 4, 2016. We see award space for 12,500 miles one way on 18/35 days.

Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.17.25 PM Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.17.30 PM This is 11 hours of flying to Hawaii for the normal price of a domestic economy award.Screen Shot 2016-07-14 at 10.17.54 PM

You can find similar award space from many cities in America to Kauai and back for 25,000 Flying Blue miles roundtrip.

Other Great Deals to Hawaii

Never use United, Delta, or American Airlines miles to Hawaii.

Searching and Booking the Mistake

You can search for Flying Blue award space at airfrance.us once you have started an account.

Sign in to your Flying Blue account and select “Use My Miles”.  Everything on the search form is pretty intuitive. Delta First Class is “Business” on the search screen.

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All transferable points transfer 1:1 to Flying Blue miles. The most time-sensitive way to get Flying Blue miles is by opening the Citi Prestige by Tuesday since its sign up details may change then.

Bottom Line

Book awards to Kauai on Delta planes with surprisingly good award space for 12,500 Flying Blue miles each way right now before the price goes up to 15,000 miles each way. (Of course, when that happens, you can still book the space for 25,000 Korean miles roundtrip.)

MileValue reader Rich has already booked this deal for four people, using 100,000 Flying Blue miles instead of $2,856 for four roundtrips to Kauai! Thanks, Rich, for the heads up.


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16 COMMENTS

  1. @aTM: The example from Atlanta above shows that all continental US should be the same i.e. 12500 … you may have to check other airports though.

  2. Thanks for the heads up; I’d love to snag a trip to Kauai. At one time, I heard some people had trouble with Flying Blue canceling award tickets that were booked with transferred points (e.g. MR). Do you know if that is still a risk?

  3. I see 12,500 one way to LIH from LAX and ATL but it shows 25,000 for one way from BOS, NYC even though there is DL Level 1 saver space for 45k then? Should it be 12.5k from anywhere in mainland USA?

  4. All flights from my airport, Boise, are at 25k each way. From my quick searches, this seems to be primarily from some Delta hubs and larger airports primarily in the western US. For dates in late august/early sept, I found flights from SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, DEN, LAS, PDX, MSP, DTW, JFK, and SLC; but airports like Boise, Spokane, Alberqueque, IAH, and ORD were at the 25k level. Hopefully you live somewhere that has the cheaper price.

    • 25k is the price if they break your trip into two awards, which they do when the layover is longer than x hours. I haven’t looked closely enough to figure out what x is, maybe 4 or 6.

      • I know that when I booked BOI to LIH with Singapore miles, they wanted to book two awards because the return flight had a 4.25 hour layover, which was lame because there was no return flight with a sub 4 hour layover available that day. I found this out when I talked to the agent who directed me to the TaCs when the rule was stated. Ended up booking the return with United miles instead

        I checked again with a random day in August and September from BOI and found flights with layover between 4 and 6 hours, as well as a flight with all sub 4 hour layovers, both of which priced at 25k each way.

        I checked from LAS and everyday in Aug and Sept has 12.5k flights. The only outbound flights at that price had two legs and sub 4hr layovers. All 25k awards had flights with 3 legs (some with all sub 4hr layovers) or two legs with a 4hr+ layover. Same was true with flights from MSP. The rule might be that flights can only have two legs, and the layover must be sub 4hr, so “x” seems to be 4hrs.

        Can anyone find a flight that breaks that rule?.

  5. So I booked 4 Tix LAX-LIH 12,500 points each one way the tickets cash value is $714. I tried adding a stopover, but was told by two different agents that the stopover has to be on the way to your destination, since I live in LA I tried adding a stopover on the end of my roundtrip and unfortunately could not. That’s ok because getting a 2.8C value on my thank you points is great for me.

  6. Hello,
    best regards from Germany. I wanted to book this. But I am called with the airline. The flight cost 15000 Points per way and 20 €. After I booked this I send a information to the airline. But I have at this time no information.
    This is only a information on the www. But you can’t book this! Please call with KLM.
    by Pepels

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